2004-11-08 [Lioness123]: kurus, that is so sad, but true...which is why you gotta be careful

2004-11-08 [Lioness123]: and in response to the "I'm right your wrong" thing, I would be a hypicrate to say that i completely follow my religion but also go to say that another might be right too. Either you totally believe something or you don't. And i totally believe that catholicism is the way to go and if I can show more people the way to the church, then i will. (Not trying to sound defensive)

2004-11-08 [Leelo]: Hey that's cool

2004-11-08 [Leelo]: Wow i missed alot.......>.<' dad told me to go to bed last night...grrrr

2004-11-08 [Kurai Tenma]: I agree, that's how I am with my church. We're non-denominational. All that there is betwixt the Protestant churches is a "denomination." Stupid word, but the Bible tells us that it is required to help show others who the hypocrits are. Though, we do have differences in how we worship, we have many more similarities, which is what Jesus was talking about.

2004-11-08 [Leelo]: hmmm I'm a southern baptist....I'm not hypocriticle

2004-11-08 [Kurai Tenma]: Me neither. I say Jesus is the only way, but there are multiple "religions" or "denominations" that practice Jesus Christ. So, the only religion that matters is Jesus Christ and Him crucified. O.o I get along so well with Baptist... they seem to be more my kind of people, when in a service.

2004-11-08 [Leelo]: Yeah that's what I was trying to get at eariler my I couldn't fully get it all out the way i wanted to lol. Cool

2004-11-08 [Leelo]: My dad is the preacher of the church and he believes in the old time way of preaching and stuff. He's cool...

2004-11-08 [Kurai Tenma]: Sweet... that would definately be my kind of place to go. ^^ No set schedule then, right??? Better not. -_-

2004-11-08 [Leelo]: Sunday moring sunday school at 10:00, and worship at 11;00 (don't know when we end, lol dad he's pretty long winded lol) Sunday night 6;00pm till whenever lol Wednesday 7:00pm til whenever lol heh I don't ever look at the time lol I can't tell time that well so i use digital lol

2004-11-08 [Leelo]: Oh Fellowship Baptist Church and we don't have digital timing either lol

2004-11-08 [Leelo]: hehehehe sorry i just love my church so I spout out it's name alot lol

2004-11-08 [Kurai Tenma]: That's fine. I go to Roxalana Gospel Tabernacle, http://www.roxalanagt.org But, other than that, you don't have a set schedule? I mean, this person will sing this song at this time, and then this person will pray for so long.

2004-11-08 [Leelo]: Yeah sometimes that happens, Dad just let's God do what he will and like Just last night we had a alter service! People sang and went down to the alter WOW I mean really! But then sometimes God wants dad to preach and so dad preaches! lol he just does what God will have him to do

2004-11-08 [Leelo]: Wow cool church!

2004-11-08 [Kurai Tenma]: A'ight... just checking. That's the way I like to hear it. It needs to be God's way, but so many people have everything written out exactly how it's gonna go.

2004-11-08 [Leelo]: Yeah. But it doesn't always like turn into a singing alter thing, it just depends on what God wants and who he's speaking to....

2004-11-08 [Kurai Tenma]: Right. That's what I meant.

2004-11-08 [Leelo]: lol ok. So what's new...?

2004-11-08 [Kurai Tenma]: Nada thing. I gotta leave for work, like 10 minutes ago.

2004-11-08 [Leelo]: lol same here. lol alright

2004-11-08 [Kurai Tenma]: Well... Tootles. Talk to you later Hun.

2004-11-08 [Leelo]: lol alright ttyl byes

2004-11-08 [Lioness123]: thats one of the things I think needs to be improved in the catholic masses...they mean well, but the priests (most of them) put their audience to sleep. I wish more of them could spice it up a bit and actually talk about things that concern us more...ya know, make it fun like in "Sister Act"

2004-11-08 [Leelo]: Yeah lol OHHHHHHHH!!! I love that movie!!! Have you seen both gof them? I have

2004-11-08 [Little Red Riding Hoodrat]: I think God would prefer me to worship on my own. I think God would be ashamed with the way some of his "people" are acting in his name. Spewing hatred and saying it is His way. I think God cries whenever christians picket the funerals of a gay person, or when they molest children... I think God knwos the state of this world is in turmoil, and I thinkt he last thing he would wnat is for peopel to persecute their fellow man in His name.

2004-11-08 [HiddenFire]: More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. Even if the bible does say one thing or the other, I still think it is a great sin to put words in the mouth of a diety. It's at least horrific arrogance to assume to know the will of a diety unless that diety speaks direclty to you.

2004-11-08 [Little Red Riding Hoodrat]: Than why is it that people can say "God hates gays" or "God didn't intend for gay peopel to be gay, it's against his way." Is that not also a sin then? Is it not also a sin to say that God hates his creations just because of the way they were born? And is it not great arrogance to say that being gay is against God, when it says that nowhere in the Bible? Peopel read the Bible and twist it to say what tehy want it to. To fit their own opinions. If they really knew the bible, they would kjnow that all the passages that denounce homosexuality do not say it is evil.

2004-11-08 [HiddenFire]: Oh the bible is certainly full of texts that are agaisnt "men laying with men" but honestly, I'm the type that considers the fact that unless the diety itself told me something, I would be causious to believe anyone who spoke of being spoken to by a diety. In other words, I'de prefer God tell me his opinion than having someone say "God told me that his opinion is..."

2004-11-09 [Little Red Riding Hoodrat]: The text that says "Do not lay with a man as you would lay with a woman, that is detestable" is in Leviticus, which is a sort of guidelines manual for priests. It also says not to eat meat, not to go near a woman who's had her period unless she's been blessed, not to go near any man who has ejaculated and not been blessed, etc. And I seem to be the only person in this world who knows thgat teh Bible also has a little passage sayign "Judge not, lest ye be judged." One of those that almost eveyr Christian seems to forget when it's convienient for them to do so. But when they'r ethe ones being judged, they all remember it. Selective memory... what a beautiful thing, huh?

2004-11-09 [Little Red Riding Hoodrat]: Also, the commandments say all sorts of things that Christians do not seme to notice... Love thy neighbor being one of the most important... Christians these days are soem of the most judgemental, hypocritical peopel... And some of the most hateful. When Matthew Shepard was brutally murdered, his family could not even mourn their loss in peace, because a group of hateful ZEALOTS decided he they neede dot picket his funeral. Tehy had to throw rocks and eggs at his casket while his family just stood there, heartbroken that their loved one was dead. And all the signs read "God Hates Gays" and "Another Fag in hell." God's work, indeed. Love thy neighbor, huh?

2004-11-09 [Little Red Riding Hoodrat]: "Casper has reportedly received threats of violence from groups and individuals protesting Shepard's homosexuality. In addition, an anti-homosexual Baptist fringe group from Topeka, Kansas, has threatened to demonstrate during Shepard's funeral. " ~Courtesy of CNN News.

2004-11-09 [Spanakopida]: Do these banners bother anyone else? Because they really piss me off. Not the concepts, the spelling/grammar. Here, feel free to use this banner I made for ya'll: I'd also appreciate it if you moved it to your own domain, so i don't have to host it. I need that bandwith.

2004-11-09 [Rizzen]: the only thing that pisses me off about the banners is that their practically apologising for our view

2004-11-09 [HiddenFire]: Even I, pro gay marriage, don't think you should have to appoligize for your opinion. An appology pretty much goes along with admitance of quilt or a sense that you where/are wrong. "I'm sorry if you're offended" is allright but certianly you shouldn't be appologizing for having an opinion.

2004-11-09 [Spanakopida]: I don't care, really. I wish they would just please make an attempt to look intellegent.

2004-11-09 [Rizzen]: aye, an argument devoid of intelligence is nothing more than whinning

2004-11-09 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: Yay....its fixed!!!

2004-11-09 [Lioness123]: thank goodness, we won't look like illiterate rednecks anymore

2004-11-09 [Leelo]: -.-' hey! Leave my redneckness alone....

2004-11-09 [Lioness123]: lol, at first glance, I thought you said "redneckedness" *giggles*

2004-11-09 [Leelo]: lol oh yeah!!! lol ^^';

2004-11-09 [HiddenFire]: red nakedness. @.@

2004-11-09 [Leelo]: -.-'

2004-11-09 [Little Red Riding Hoodrat]: WAY TO GO ARALLE!!!!! That's why i refuse to put one up.

2004-11-09 [Little Red Riding Hoodrat]: But what amazes me, you gusy are acting like 85% of the gay peopel out there who are pissed about the anti-marriage thing... you're all bitchign, but doing nothing to fix it yourself.

2004-11-09 [Lioness123]: hey, I'm not bitching.

2004-11-09 [Leelo]: heh no I'm deffinatly not bitching lolit's mostly the gay people who come bitching to me roflmao. Ah well that's people.

2004-11-09 [Rizzen]: doing nothing? Do you have any idea how many people I talk to a week about gay marriage. And not just unline either. While my city was debating the gay marriage issue, Several rallies against gay marriage were held. I attended every one

2004-11-09 [HiddenFire]: Personally, I'm still waiting for someone to come up with ANY valid reason to appose it... outside of religion of course.

2004-11-09 [Leelo]: Ummm lets see what have I done? Ummmm 1st off my page, I let people know my views, 2nd my whole family vited for Bush. We didn't really have any raileys where I am cuz theres not really many gay people if there are any... So i mostly do my fixin online....

2004-11-09 [Leelo]: Ok it's GROSE!!!! AND UNATURAL!! And [Dumnorix] explained it all!! der der, do you not know when you quit?

2004-11-09 [HiddenFire]: I never quit, [Dumnorix] ran away. Grose and unatural where allready covered as invalid arguments. Not to mention that homosexuals do not think it's gross and it's been proven that it's perfectly natural. Several animal species do it. [Dumnorix] did nothing to give any valid arguement.

2004-11-09 [Leelo]: heh whatever lol Animals are not gay lol How do you get that? roflmao that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard! How dare you bring those innocent creatures into this!!! No lets see Von Moss knew when to quit, unlike you you stubbern ass!!!

2004-11-09 [Kurai Tenma]: Actually, science says all animals other than humans mate for the procreation, not recreation, meaning that science has just gone against itself in saying some species do. Two, men have an outlet, women and inlet. That's the way they were created, and meant to be used together. No one can argue against that.

2004-11-09 [Leelo]: -.-' still doesn't say they're gay

2004-11-09 [HiddenFire]: I cite the bonobo: http://songweaver.com/info/bonobos.html

2004-11-09 [HiddenFire]: dolphins have sex for pleasure, as do many apes. Not to mention that dogs "hump" for dominance. Animals have no concept of reproduction, they do what feels good, what they're instincts tell them to do. Homosexuality in certain species is used as a means of population control.

2004-11-09 [Leelo]: hmmmmmmmmk

2004-11-09 [Leelo]: ......>.<' Still doesn't say anything

2004-11-09 [HiddenFire]: What do you mean "doesn't say anything"? Elaborate, defend.

2004-11-09 [Leelo]: I was talking about what you said!!

2004-11-09 [HiddenFire]: I know, and I want you to elaborate. Why does it say nothing? Why is it invalid?

2004-11-09 [HiddenFire]: If you want, I could give you an anatomy lesson and prove once and for all that humans have sex primarily for pleasure and secondarily for reproduction.

2004-11-09 [Leelo]: Oh ok we're on somthing different now lol heh I was way back there in some other conversation.

2004-11-09 [Rizzen]: HiddenFire, you want a valid reason? Heres one. Say a homosexual couple adopts a child. Two men may be good fathers, but they can never be a mother, just as two femals can be good mothers, but they can never be fathers

2004-11-09 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: good one

2004-11-09 [Rizzen]: thank you

2004-11-10 [Kurai Tenma]: Yes, very good. No matter how feminine one of the men became, he shall never have that ture motherly touch. Same with masculine women, they never obtain the true fatherly figure. Something is still missing. Like I said the last time, science also says that animals only have sex for reproduction, which means your statement about it being natural says science goes against itself too much in the issue to be trusted. So, give us something other than that. You're anatomy lesson isn't too relavant, because you ignored mine. Men have a complementary sexual organ to that of the women. Two women cannot truely perform the act of sex, nor two men, without perverting its definition.

2004-11-10 [Lioness123]: I have one comment about the "its natural because animals do it" idea..... I'd like to think that we humans are better than animals. Animals don't have any morals. They do what instinct tells them, or whatever feels good. I'd like to think that we're better than that.

2004-11-10 [Lioness123]: here's a site about the idea that people are born homosexual>> http://www.viewzone.com/homosexual.html

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: I agree with lioness ok I'll check out the link

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: I didn't get what it meant lol

2004-11-10 [Kurai Tenma]: You are born straight, because that's the way the race is intended. You "turn" gay via choice. That's the honest truth.

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: Yeah

2004-11-10 [Lioness123]: its talking about the medical idea that the part of gay people's brain, the hypothalamus (part responsible for some emotions, personality and sex drive) is slightly irregular

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: lol alright then disreagard teh stupid message i sent you asking what it meant lol

2004-11-10 [Lioness123]: Atmostrata, I'm not so sure on that. At this point, I don't think science has learned enough about the brain to say for sure if gayness is a choice or not. And besides, who would ever want to be gay? they get beat up, harassed, teased, if they could choose, why would they choose that for themselves??

2004-11-10 [Kurai Tenma]: I understand it, but that's like the tenth time I've heard science change it's mind. The Bible says man will justify himself in his own eyes, and that's what they are trying to do. Humans, though similar to rats, do not have the same mental processing, so unless it is tested through a human (not forced, just a coincidencial act) then I shan't believe it. Science contradicts itself more than it proves itself.

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: Some people turn gay to get back at people i should know a friend of mine did that. I have to agree with atmostrata on this, it is a choice, sometimes I ask the same questions like who would want to be gat. But heh why would someone want to murder someone? See what I am saying>

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: Some people turn gay to get back at people i should know a friend of mine did that. I have to agree with atmostrata on this, it is a choice, sometimes I ask the same questions like who would want to be gat. But heh why would someone want to murder someone? See what I am saying>?

2004-11-10 [Lioness123]: hmm... ok, just curious, can you name another time when science contradicted itself?

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: what does contradicted mean?

2004-11-10 [Kurai Tenma]: Yes, I had to do a study on how atoms combined, and the party I researched from said they stick, when they hit above a certain speed. I redid it, and it didn't work. That's like saying I punch the wall hard enough and my hand will stick.

2004-11-10 [Kurai Tenma]: Science says all but humans have sex for procreation, but it also says that it's naturally occuring through numerous species.

2004-11-10 [Lioness123]: I can see why scientists would think one thing, and then later find that that's not right, but thats how things work....especially in medical science.

2004-11-10 [Rizzen]: science does not say all but humans have sex for procreation. It has actually been documented that some apes and dolphins will actually have sex outside mating season, thus, sex for pleasure

2004-11-10 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: i am a firm believer that people CHOOSE to be homosexual...no argument, its all a choice...

2004-11-10 [Rizzen]: personally, I believe it's mostly choice, but not completely. I believe that Satan is always trying to get his hand in cretion and pervert what God has made. The base motive and desires of homosexuality, in my opinion, is from Satan

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: Well true but we as hummans can fight him on that too so it's hummans fault for letting satan trash our minds like that...

2004-11-10 [Rizzen]: exactelly. We have let him in, and let him pervert what God has created.

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: Yes that is true.

2004-11-10 [Rizzen]: glad someone agrees with me

2004-11-10 [rocker reject]: i think that its mostly based on religon and how you are brought up. no offense- but i think anything else besides Christianity, and sometimes Judisim, is a wrong thing to believe in

2004-11-10 [rocker reject]: just remember plz that that is my opinion

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: ok lol

2004-11-10 [Rizzen]: I too believe that. Any who do not believe in Jesus as the son of God, and the way to heaven, are to end up in hell, unless they convert

2004-11-10 [Spanakopida]: Shit. I am totally going to hell then.

2004-11-10 [Rizzen]: realization is the first step. It is not yet too late Aralle

2004-11-10 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: yeah...its scary stuff

2004-11-10 [rocker reject]: I believe taht once you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, that no matter how wrong you ahve done, you'll still go to heaven.......but i do believe that you have to repent (ask for forgiviness)

2004-11-10 [Spanakopida]: I was being sarcastic, lovely :)

2004-11-10 [Rizzen]: indeed. Forgivness will not be given to those who refuse it. Nomatter what you have done, or will do, God will always forgive. No other religion has that

2004-11-10 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: as long as you ask for and accept the forgiveness

2004-11-10 [rocker reject]: And no other religion doesn't ahve a god who is as loving either....

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: yeah true

2004-11-10 [Rizzen]: indeed

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: yup yup

2004-11-10 [Rizzen]: so true

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: lol yeah

2004-11-10 [Rizzen]: glad to see we are on the same page

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: lol yeah, lol wha'd you think? Did you think I wasn't on the christian straight way side?

2004-11-10 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: i thought you were

2004-11-10 [Spanakopida]: Are ya'll going to use my banner or not?

2004-11-10 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: what banner?

2004-11-10 [Spanakopida]: Page 4

2004-11-10 [Rizzen]: don't worry snikerdoodle, I thought you were. I's just someting I say from time to time

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: lol alright no worries then?

2004-11-10 [Rizzen]: hakkuna matata

2004-11-10 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: ohhh okay then, yeah i like the banner....i just haven't put it up yet....i'm lazy like that, but it is saved and i do like it so i will use it n_n

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2004-11-10 [Spanakopida]: It's really the same thing, with better spelling/grammar

2004-11-10 [Rizzen]: already have a banner up. No offense, but I won't use your's because, to me, it still hase the apology feel to it

2004-11-10 [Lioness123]: maybe we need an entirely new banner

2004-11-10 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: *sigh* to be honest, i really don't care one way or the other...no matter what we don ppl aren't going to like it....and who cares if everyone who visits your hose knows what wikis you are it?

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: Yeah true

2004-11-10 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: despite my bad spelling, i just type really fast, i've been typing a 5-10 page essay all night...I hate it

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: yeah lol no worries about the bad spelling lol no worries sounds like its fun lol

2004-11-10 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: hi matt!!!

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: SWING ON A STAR!!! XD

2004-11-10 [HiddenFire]: Wow, in those few short hours you sure did ammass quite a bit of comments. @.@

2004-11-10 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: TELL me about it

2004-11-10 [HiddenFire]: you know what. I don't feel like argueing right now. I've said it all before. Knocked every arguement out of the sky. *shrugs* If you really want to know what I think, it's all on HF Gay Marriage and chances are, it covers almost every argument you can come up with.

2004-11-10 [HiddenFire]: I'm tired, if that sounded mean at all. *shrugs* I was considering countering some of the things said against my logic but I decided against it for the simple fact that I'm tired of repeating myself. *shrugs*

2004-11-10 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: right....every argument and my mind never changes...how odd

2004-11-10 [HiddenFire]: neither will mine. ^_^ That's the way this sort of thing goes. I suppose it's like politics, religion, abortion, etc... seems everyone is all for one and against all others when it comes to those sorts of things. I think I know the problem. It's the lack of understanding between both groups. I do not understand how anyone can be so adamently against gay marriage, and I would assume you haven't the slightest clue why I would support it. Odd how that works out eh?

2004-11-10 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: right...don't try to glorify yourself...keep in mind, to us, gay marriage is wrong

2004-11-10 [HiddenFire]: Not to mention that no matter what I say I can be brushed off as a "vile heathen" who has been infested by the devil or some other such niceness. The ramblings of an immoral mind no less. *shrugs* I still maintain that all arguments against it are baseless and that anyone who cannot see that is only desperately trying to hold together the house of cards that is their reality that they will hear none of it. I think the main reason people are apposed to it is "It's against God's will" and all other arguments are designed to back up that statement... rather pittifully I might add.

2004-11-10 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: okay, keep thinking that *shrugs* whut-eva

2004-11-10 [HiddenFire]: I know you think it's wrong. I know that we think you're wrong. It's the nature of having sides to an argument we each must think the other side wrong or else we conceed that we, ourselves could be wrong.

2004-11-10 [HiddenFire]: Here's a question: What of civil unions? I've heard several gay marriage apposers that are pro civil unions. They being only legal, with no spiritual connections what-so-ever.

2004-11-10 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: k

2004-11-10 [HiddenFire]: A civil union is like a strictly legal marriage. They may have some of the same, or all of, the benifits of normal marriage. I wonder how much of the opposition is pro civil union.

2004-11-10 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: i wonder

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: heh

2004-11-10 [Kurai Tenma]: I'll agree, but I can say I am anti-civil union. If you give them the little bit, they will take it to court for not being recognized as married when they get the benefits. They will allow marriage shortly after they allow civil unions. They can use their will, not the last testiment and will, but just the will. People usually fill them out for after their passing, which is the last testiment, but the will is while you're alive. The gov't has to recognize it. I know a couple that uses it, and they get benefits through it. Sexuality is a choice, trust me. I'd know. I know people that said they were different (gay), but chose to be straight, and are happy with it. It goes both ways.

2004-11-10 [Kurai Tenma]: and HiddenFire, I do think like the opposition, it works wonders at helping you debate your own arguement, does it not? I understand why you're so good at it. Same reason I am.

2004-11-10 [HiddenFire]: I understand why, I can see the reasoning. I just think the reasoning is flawed. But you are right, the mark of an intelligent mind is the ability to intertain an idea without accepting it. I've lived in that world of rampant homophobia and religious fanaticism. I know why they are against it. But it's the perfectly reasonable and intelligent people that are against it that fuddle me. Not because their arguments are any better than everyone elses, but simple because in my mind I can't see how they don't see what I see.

2004-11-10 [HiddenFire]: the interesting thing is that you, like I, will never be affected by anything should gay marraige be legalised or banned. We both being straight. But quite frankly, I'm in the debate mostly because I'm sick and tired of the flat out IGNORANT ways the gay marriage supporters are argueing. Sure the "It's about love" argument is perfectly valid, but it's annoying as heck when all they seem to be capable of doing is parroting cliches. Just as I'm sure that to the intelligent of your number the "Adam and Steve" argument is old and tired.

2004-11-10 [Kurai Tenma]: Yeah, very annoying too. I have a banner, I think, but only so I don't forget about the wiki for some reason. Until those who are capable of "debating" instead of useless arguing come together there is not a point in holding a debate. I held off like 20 some people on my own at a wiki I made just for gay marriage debates, and only one or two of them thought about being intelligent in their thoughts.

2004-11-10 [HiddenFire]: That lack of intelligence in the general population is... depressing. I don't know if it's actual stupidity or the lack of education but very few people can come up with even half decent arguments. I will rarely ever use "it's about love" as one of my arguments. Simply because I detest that arguement so much. Marriage should be about love, it certainly would be nothing without it. But it's far too overused.

2004-11-10 [Kurai Tenma]: True, hence why I bring out things like the sexual organs, mental thoughts, feelings... I mean I felt them all, but it wasn't right. And, I'm glad I chose the path that I have decided to walk.

2004-11-10 [HiddenFire]: LOL, notice how much we bring that stuff up? Gay marriage supporters that is. It seems that we are all using pretty similiar arguments to support our cause. Although, I'm probably the only person I know using anatomy to prove sex is for pleasure on my side of the argument, then of course there are the children, You say it's bad for them, we say it's good. Although singles can adopt and gays often get around homophobic laws by adopting as a single parent. *shrugs* What other common grounds are there? Because I know there's more.

2004-11-10 [Kurai Tenma]: I dunno... but if you give me something, I'll study it and flip it around to suit our side. That's another thing about knowing how to debate, you can sway the facts and people, just by looking from your perspective. If you know how one thinks, you can make them believe anything. Not that I'll lie to prove my point, I tell the honest truth, and that's it. Others will... like Hitler and those like him. I'm off to work. TTYL.

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: OK I just went and did a big study on homosexualti and it's behavior! So! Now that I have done that no one can say or think I have not studied! By the way you people may not want to hear this I did half biblical and half my views and research! I went by the bible too, YES htat's right I went by the bible, the bible is the word iof GOD yes I said that right THE WORD OF GOD and what he says is true! Yeah the bible was written by men but I have covered that! They were men who were inspired by GOD and there are documents that have been recoved! So now I'm not the dummy around here anymore! I have done the research and the biblical research! And guess what? MY OPINION REMAINS THE SAME!!!

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: Now I have grown stronger and smarter about this issue!

2004-11-10 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: haha! go snickers

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: lol yeah I think I was talking to myself lol, glad you popped in so i wasn't entirly talking to myself lol

2004-11-10 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: yup *pop* here i am

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: lol YAY!!

2004-11-10 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: Josh Groban is on my radio now

2004-11-10 [Leelo]: lol cool cool^^

2004-11-11 [Kurai Tenma]: Lol. I think me and [HiddenFire] may have started a reaction in this little one... -.^

2004-11-11 [Leelo]: what are you talking about? >.>......<.<......>.>.......I ish lost...O.o'

2004-11-11 [Kurai Tenma]: lol. You did you're "I'm intelligent on the subject, now," speech right after me and [HiddenFire] had talked about how people speak out before they know anything.

2004-11-11 [Leelo]:   >.< Leave me alone I knew some stuff but ya'll got over my head so I was drowning so to speak sos i went and foud a life savor so to speak and now you people make me out to be a dummy again!!!!! I guess once a dummy always a dummy, guesses it's the hillbilly in me...

2004-11-11 [Kurai Tenma]: !! I wasn't make you out to be a dummy... I was being sarcastic about us making you go out to research. You know, I wouldn't call you something you're not. The dummies are those that disobey God.

2004-11-11 [Leelo]: Ok I'm lost now... Oh ya'll didn't make me do the reasearch I was doing it fer youth meeting. lol

2004-11-11 [Leelo]: btw I was playing when I said something about me being a dummy lol

2004-11-11 [Kurai Tenma]: I see... I feel stupid. I have no common sense. I didn't think we made you do the research. Sarcasm.

2004-11-11 [Leelo]: Hey don't go off and feel stupid, cuz that's gonna make me feel bad, and then soon be depressed. And I'm in a happy mood right now!! Ya do too have common scense. Ok....and if ya being sarcastic about this, ummm I'mma gonna shoot myself because lol I can't seem to foller

2004-11-11 [Kurai Tenma]: No. I'm not sarcastic about it. Lol. Fine, I won't feel stupid, so long as you stay happy. Lol. I have as much common sense as a horsie.

2004-11-11 [Leelo]: lol alright good cuz I wanna be happy today anyways lol, I'mma goin to my friend's house he name is [!~N1ghtingale l0cked in the cage~!] on here she's a friedn from church!!! I'lla get on from her house. lol. Then you have alot of common scense!!! Hosses have good common scense about things, which is why i love horses!!!

2004-11-11 [Kurai Tenma]: I dunno about having common sense... seriously, but oh well. If you say so. Umm... I'm getting ready to leave. I'll be back on in like 5-6 hours.. Lol.

2004-11-12 [rocker reject]: Hi people...........

2004-11-12 [Kurai Tenma]: Hola, comó estás Ustéd?

2004-11-12 [rocker reject]: Muy bein. Y tu?

2004-11-12 [Kurai Tenma]: Así, así, pero okey. Graciás

2004-11-12 [rocker reject]: Danada...don't know how to spell it..... Debo el bistec con mi amigos y padresy abruelos y gatos y perros y debemos tostado. I'm going to turn that into my teacher tomorrow

2004-11-12 [Kurai Tenma]: It's "De Nada" or "Of Nothing" in English. O.o *drools* sounds yummy, and I'm hungry.... Lol. Why you turning that in?

2004-11-12 [rocker reject]: I also put that I ate food with birds and fish, and then we ate the bird. We ate on the floor...

2004-11-12 [rocker reject]: and i thought it was very funny!!!!! lol :)

2004-11-12 [Kurai Tenma]: Lol. Birds? Fish? I don't think so. Actually, I translate it like this, word for word: "I owe the steak with my friends and parents and grandparents and cats and dogs and we owe (tostado)." I don't recognize that word.

2004-11-12 [rocker reject]: tostado means toast... debo and debemos means to eat...

2004-11-12 [Kurai Tenma]: to eat is cocinar... and toast is brindis, but I do remember tostado being a secondary, not htat you mention it. Deber means to owe

2004-11-12 [rocker reject]: thats not what is said in my spanish book adn in it cocinar means to cook

2004-11-12 [Kurai Tenma]: cocinar doubles to eat... but then again, I learned a dialect that my friend knows. He's Mexican, so we may both be correct.

2004-11-12 [rocker reject]: ahhhh....i'm just taking spanish...although two of my friends are mexican they don't know alot of spanish...

2004-11-12 [Kurai Tenma]: Lol. I took Spanish IV, but we had people in Spanish VI in the class, so we all got credit for VI because we all did that work. And, I passed the test that says I'm fluent. I know a dialect, you're studying the proper language, so we won't be on the same page.

2004-11-12 [rocker reject]: okay. i'm taking Spanish II so yeah......i really don't like my teacher!!!!!

2004-11-12 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: i like most all my teachers this year...how...odd...that like never happins

2004-11-12 [rocker reject]: I only have 2 or 3 teachers that i like....I used to have 4 or 5 then the stupid counselors changed my schedule

2004-11-12 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: Evils of councelors

2004-11-12 [rocker reject]: hehe lol.....yep!

2004-11-12 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: *rolls eyes* they NEVER listin to what you are saying..because they are too busy trying to figure out what you "really mean"

2004-11-12 [rocker reject]: thats what my counselor does...took her forever to change my schedule (when i wanted her to) but i had another counselor do it and she did (the other one)

2004-11-12 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: isn't communication GREAT?!

2004-11-13 [rocker reject]: sure.......

2004-11-13 [Leelo]: lol